New regulation just announced removes ecigarettes as an alternative from newsagents and supermarkets (the same places cancer causing real cigs are sold), thus removing the competition, its an absolute scandal.
Today our government brought in new regulation designed to do two things.
1. Destroy competition for revenue raising cancer causing real cigarettes by banning ecigs from newsagents and superstores, the same place real cigarettes are sold, therefore removing the competition (Big Tobacco studies showed their customers were leaving them in droves when ecigarette alternatives were on sale in the same location as real cigarettes), i.e newsagents and superstores. This new government regulation is designed to remove that direct competition and keep people impulse buying cancer causing real cigarettes.
2. To destroy the current electronic cigarette market on behalf of the Big Pharma lobby and to hand the entire lucrative business over to them in a spectacular capitalist coup so that expensive products can be pushed through the NHS by the big pharma companies, who completely missed out on the ecigarette revolution and have now used the government to hand them the entire industry via corrupt politicians and the EU.
3. Our corrupt politicians are hoping it does not dawn on people that classifying ecigarettes as "medicine" because they contain nicotine but not the 5000 cancer causing chemicals found in real cigarettes, in order to remove them from newsagents and supermarkets the healtier alternative where they compete directly on impulse sales with real cigarettes (which obviously also contain nicotine but are expempt from this law), is nothing short of criminal behaviour, especially when it is proven big tobacco and big pharma lobbying was behind this.
If you google "EU electronic cigarette corruption" you will see those creating this regulation have already been found to be seeking bribes from big pharma companies, yet there same corrupt legislation has been pushed through regardless.
Are e-cigarettes medicines? It simply isn’t the case that e-cigarettes are medicines – they are recreational consumer nicotine products, with superior characteristics to cigarettes that appeal to users. There are other things that have effects on the body that are a better parallel for e-cigs than medicines – for example alcoholic drink, high caffeine drinks, functional foods, cosmetics. Also, there is not need to define something as a medicine simply because it presents risks: thousands of products do – anything using mains electricity, heat, pressure or could be tampered with by children. Consumer protection regulation deals with all of these successfully.
They are trying to say that manufacturers would be able to apply for the licence. However, in practice, at least at present, the technology does not exist to comply. The one company that has tried lost two million pounds and four years of time in a failed attempt to make a device that would comply - and the product was terrible. So at present they know it is a sneaky way to enforce a ban.
This will make ecigs too expensive to buy on the highstreet, but it will allow for corrupt politicians to use the NHS (tax payers money again) to buy them at a rediculous cost and push them via prescription through the NHS, thus making the pharma lobby happy, fleecing the tax payer and making them unavailable in newsagents and supermarkets (where they create huge impulse purchases that damage the sales of cancer causing tobacco cigarettes).
What is bizzare is the governments own "nudge unit" were advising everyone who could not quit to atleast switch to electronic cigarettes not long before this. As Diane Abbott pointed out, for the government to build up regulation for e-cigs just a month after caving in on the issue of standardised, non-enticing packaging for real, poisonous cigarettes, is frankly bizarre, and really does cause one to wonder what conversations are going on behind the scenes.
My mother is over the moon because as a 60 a day smoker for 40 years she has quit a year ago using an ecig. Her doctor says her "gasses are now normal" and she no longer has a smokers cough, she feels great. BUT she has had to lie to her doctor, who is under the false impression the NRT lozenges and patches have worked and she is having to play along with him, he says he "amazed" at her progress, but why does she feel she has to lie and pretend its the useless NRT stuff he gave her that did it? I smell a rat here, are the doctors being persuaded somehow to push big pharma products that do not work? While at the same time putting out Pharma funded scare stories about ecigs and trying to bribe EU commissioners into getting them banned as they cut into their profits too much? Google "Eu electronic cigarette corruption" and judge for yourselves.
EU electronic cigarette ban
maria t • 12 hours ago
I was smoking 20+ cigarettes a day, not only was it unaffordable but I was waking in the morning fighting for breath. I tried ecigs and was astonished how easy it was to switch, and can only say after just a few weeks of switching, I had no more breathlessness on waking, I don't know how safe they are for non-smokers, but the improvement in my health since giving up the normal cigarettes 6 months ago, and the cut in cost, has been amazing
ifaly1 • 20 hours ago
not much tax revenue on these oh dear
Semtex • 20 hours ago
The anti-smoking fascists really hate the way that we can now enjoy a 'smoke' without them being able to be all superior about how we're all killing ourselves, because with these we're not. They should be improved and also available in higher strengths so that people who try them don't want to smoke tobacco any more, by itself nicotine isn't really any more harmful than caffeine. They should aim to make these the new and improved replacement for tobacco, basically tobacco MK2 and render tobacco itself obsolete. We smoke because we like it and also because we're addicted to it, not because we're suicidal and if we can do so and remain healthy then that can only be a good thing - especially if it irritates people who want to have a reason to look down on others by wiping the smug grins off of their faces.
Previously there was only two choices, give up or die. Now there's a third way, you can enjoy a 'techno#$%$' and not worry about the dying part, nor the poor health. Expecting lifelong smokers to all give up is unrealistic in most cases, this means that they don't have to.
Samantha • 10 hours ago
I used to smoke around 8 a day, got an electric one and now only have about a dozen PUFFS a day! Certainly helped me to cut down and felt the biggest difference in my pocket!
Colin • 12 hours ago
I am sure the HMRC are writing an import tariff as we sit here, so that the government can raise as much tax on these as they do with ordinary cigs ! Death and Taxes .. the only certain things in life !
Boudicca • 12 hours ago
Of course the government wants these banned. If everyone took up smoking these instead of 'normal' cigs, look at the venue the governent would lose. I had already stopped smoking when these came on the scene, but my son swears by them